Mehdi Hasan and Ida Glaser continue their conversation and consider the figure of Jesus
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"It seems to me like the church would be the place that would lead the way in having dangerous conversations," says megachurch pastor Rob Bell, author of the controversial "Love Wins: A Book about Heaven, Hell, and the Fate of Every Person Who Ever Lived."
What do we talk about when we talk about hell? Fire and brimstone. An eternity of torture and pain. Someone with coffee breath talking too close to your face. Finding out Hoobastank has more than one song. But spiritual teacher Rob Bell wonders what Jesus meant when he used the word hell.