Natalie Ginsberg, MAPS Policy and Advocacy Manager will interview Rick Doblin, Ph.D., MAPS Founder and Executive Director, about his experiences when MDMA was legal, his battle against its subsequent criminalization, and his current efforts to secure MDMA’s legal access by transforming it into an FDA-approved prescription medicine. Rick will interview Natalie about her work advocating for psychedelic harm reduction, healing justice and legal access which moves beyond medicine to access for personal and spiritual growth, celebration, and other intentional use.